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A long kiss goodnight

I want to clarify because I don't think switching for tulpamancers typically if ever qualifies as medical dissociation, but I do think it can sometimes be on par with the dissociation you experience during meditation or daydreaming

Dissociation from daydreaming is still dissociation...

Tbh I kind of agree with that

Everybody experiences dissociation, it's not just a medical condition.

I'm asking because I'm not sure what they expect is the intensity of the experience. They appeared to be either a beginner or someone not very familiar with tulpamancy, I didn't want to assume they had the same ideas about dissociation I do

That's valid

For how long were you at the stage where they finally respond but they're short and they never come up with things on their own?

The length of time doesn't matter, but I'd get them to journal their thoughts which lead to them writing lots but more than that, we had to get over fear of parroting, so they could think freely without getting stopped up by "is it really them" nonsense

Letting them speak on discord might help

When I say time doesn't matter, I mean you could jump past that issue very quickly by having a good approach, or it could take years by having a bad approach

It's really them at this point, it's just that things would be too simple for a journal.

11:48 PM

What would be a good approach because I'm terrible at questions.

I don't think anything's too simple to journal but also that's what prompts and "can you elaborate on that" is for

_Dan

For how long were you at the stage where they finally respond but they're short and they never come up with things on their own?

Luminesce: As always with tulpa development, many things go by quickly for some people while they can take months for others. The timespan I'm used to seeing is a few weeks to a few months, I guess? But Yuka is right that latching onto any specific time is pointless, it could be a matter of days if you manage to think about everything right and put in the work, or it could take you much longer to finally get past any mental blocks, and so on (edited)

I think what most tulpamancers are missing is importance of getting input outside of the brain during development. Humans are social creatures, we use other people as a mirror to learn about who we are. It's very hard to do it in head, and much easier with other people. Which is why I think having tulpa talk on discord to other people at least on the side of normal techniques helps so much (edited)

11:52 PM

Whenever someone struggled with a tulpa and I just suggested making a tulpa bot, their development skyrocketed

Hello. How is everyone?

They appear to enjoy doing this. It's easier than me trying to come up with stuff.

Hi April! A better place to talk would be general-chat

_Dan

They appear to enjoy doing this. It's easier than me trying to come up with stuff.

That's how it works... it is much easier. and yet all guides talk about inefficient techniques

I really mean to stress that they are most vocal when on general chat.

It might be worth trying to chat on your own private server with just you, too. Since they are most vocal on general chat, perhaps that might be similar enough to practice talking in-system?

Might be better than journaling

Luminesce: Private server with you + tupperbox is the modern standard for journaling, I'd say (edited)

12:04 AM

It's just your preference of digital vs physical

12:05 AM

I've always felt journaling and private-chatting with your tulpa was weird so I've never recommended it, but I've never recommended against it either

12:05 AM

It was all just talking in-mind, for us

If your Tupla chooses to be selectively mute, does that "stifle" development? (This hasn't happened to me, I'm just curious - been thinking about Tuplas and whilst being nonverbal for most of the day) (edited)

When you're nonverbal do you not have anything thoughts to yourself?

I do, I mean all I do is think (ADHD doesn't allow much shutdown time) but I just kinda was wondering, yknow?

guys is it normal if you "absorb" your tulpas manners

3:08 PM

what i mean by that is:

3:09 PM

lets say i write in a certain way and my tulpa in another

3:09 PM

sometimes i will write similar to my tulpa

Yes

3:21 PM

If that bothers you just recognise it is the way your tulpa writes not you, and just decide to write in the way you usually write (edited)

Adeus.

guys is it normal if you "absorb" your tulpas manners

Yuuup

Why are you considering it?

4:02 PM

Hmm didn't you ask that before?

4:02 PM

Or was it someone else

I realized maybe its not a good idea (edited)

4:04 PM

to do that to myself

4:04 PM

but idk how to...

4:05 PM

idk how to explaij

In my opinion personality is too complex and has too many dimensions to say that there are opposite personalities

explsin

4:05 PM

explain*

People's personalities are complex

I even thought about going by different names

By the way if you delete you messages then what I write doesn't make sense so you make me look stupid

sorry

4:06 PM

i get embarassed sometimes

No reason to be

4:07 PM

So why did you consider it?

because i dont really feel complete

Hmm and you want to fix that by becoming even less complete?

its like i cant mix the two sides of my personality

What's about those personalities that makes them not mixable?

i prefer not to say because...it involves bad traits of mine

4:09 PM

lets just say one side is really nice and the other is...not

If you decide to split, the other personality would get more power and would be hard to control it

4:10 PM

What you are considering is the opposite of what you would need to do to resolve it

i dont really plan on spltting forever

4:11 PM

i want to merge back again after sometime.... But it may not work

Yes but if you decide to do it it will be potentially very hard to reintegrate

Why?

You already disown that part of yourself and look how hard it to integrate it to your sense of self Imagine how much harder it will be if that part of you will be even more disowned and will gain it's own name, identity, sense of self, agency, aspirations

4:14 PM

As you are exposed to that part of you as a separate entity, you might be repelled by it even more

Everything you are saying is a horrible, horrible idea that will just make it harder for you and isnt even the purpose of tulpas. Do not do that

i will treat it as a alter ego its more easy that way

4:15 PM

Instead of a system member

Also, if you decide to do it, you might find yourself less accountable for the actions of the other part of you

tulpas are their own personality, not a personification of bits and pieces of your personality.

4:16 PM

Also seporating negative parts of yourself and giving it attention alike from a tulpa will result in that part of yourself feeling 'stronger' and less 'in control' and may increase negative instrusive thoughts

4:17 PM

There is basically no possitive to doing it.

Yeah

Im not even really sure what positive you think would even happen

i will admitt it

4:18 PM

i think i know what the other side of my personality is

4:18 PM

it was a alter ego ....a mask/persona i used but i stopped using it after a certain time

4:18 PM

but lately i have been really stressed and not acting like...me and instead as this mask

tulpamancy isnt going to help that

It was you acting like that because you were stressed

4:19 PM

It's not an alter ego

yes but it is...like the mask

It's not a mask

not just stressed way acting

People put on different masks to fit in or protect themselves, thats a normal human expirence

yes but this one has very specifit traits

4:20 PM

and i used to use it under stres

If I speak my different language I have different set of traits, if I'm stressed I have different set of traits

4:20 PM

It's normal

so now that im really stressed out it came out mautomatically

The way I act at home and the way I act around my mother who stresses me out and the way i act at work are all extremely different 'people' but they are still me

If you put a label of "mask" or "alter ego" you are just disowning it

KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk

If I speak my different language I have different set of traits, if I'm stressed I have different set of traits

no you arent understanding it

I understand you are embarrassed and maybe feel guilty for how you acted

i am acting that way because of stress but

But disoning it will make it much worse

i became used to acting that way under stress

You will be randomly acting out instead of having control over it